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Bret Taylor

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He saved OpenAI, invented the β€œLike” button, and built Google Maps: Bret Taylor (Sierra)

Jul 31, 20251h 28m

Guest: Bret Taylor - Co-founder and CEO of Sierra. Bret is a renowned tech leader, having co-created Google Maps, invented the "Like" button, served as CTO of Meta, and co-CEO of Salesforce. He is also the chairman of the board at OpenAI. Key Takeaways: Outcome-Based Pricing: Bret advocates for outcome-based pricing in AI, aligning software value with measurable business outcomes, as demonstrated by Sierra's model of charging based on customer service resolutions. Agent-Centric Future: The future of software is moving towards autonomous agents that perform complete tasks, leading to significant productivity gains and reshaping business models. Flexible Identity: Success across varied roles comes from a flexible self-identity, focusing on impact rather than sticking to familiar tasks or roles. AI in Education: AI can democratize education by offering personalized learning experiences, acting as a tutor to cater to individual learning styles. Systems Thinking in AI: Understanding systems and context is crucial for leveraging AI effectively, especially in coding, where context engineering can enhance AI-generated code quality. Topics Covered: AI market dynamics, outcome-based pricing, productivity gains with AI, future of coding, education and AI, systems thinking, go-to-market strategies in AI, Bret's career insights.

Notable Quotes

β€œWaking up every morning, what is the most impactful thing I could do today?”

Mindset for success

β€œIt's remarkable that it's a true story.”

Grit and endurance

β€œThe original framing was one click comment.”

Concept behind the like button